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Bella
08-04-2006, 04:19 PM
Is it possible to drain a hunter and shield yourself? What are the best ways to go about it?

Amathiess
08-04-2006, 04:48 PM
Here is a exert from a shielding class I did a while ago. This should help. This is not my stuff and I do not know who authored it as it had no name on it when I found it on the net.

THE BASICS OF SHIELDING

In order to understand shielding, one must first understand the basis of psionics, that is, quite basically, that everything is made up of energy and that very energy may be manipulated to various degrees. There are many things that you might wish to shield yourself against, but for purposes of this article, I will assume that your desire is to shields yourself against being drained of energy. This type of shield is known as an inward shield, as its sole purpose is to prevent energy from leaving your body.

Outward shielding, which is often used to reflect various forms of attacks, will be discussed in future articles. The basic concept behind shielding is that, given that energy may be manipulated in various ways, it may be manipulated in such a manner as to form a 'wall' or 'barrier' of energy around a given target, in this case, the target being yourself. In effect, creating this type of inward 'barrier' allows the person who is being shielded to retain his/her energy, as any energy that would normally escape from the being is reflected back into the body.

This article will describe a visual approach to this method of shielding. To begin, you will most likely find it easier to concentrate either in complete darkness, or in candlelight. I do not recommend using scented candles, however, as it makes it too easy for a beginner in shielding to let his/her mind wander to the scent of the candle, and lose focus on what he/she is doing. Make sure that you will be uninterrupted and that there will be no audible distractions.

You should find a comfortable spot in a chair, on a bed, or perhaps even on the floor. Anywhere is fine, as long as you are comfortable, yet I do not recommend laying down, as it tends to cause one to tire easily and lowers concentration. Once you have found a suitable spot to begin, close your eyes for a few moments.

Focus on your breathing, taking slow, deep breaths in through your nose, and exhaling quickly (however, not forcing) through your mouth. Concentrate only on your breathing, ignoring any other sounds. Don't let your mind wander off. Just picture nothing but complete darkness. Once you are certain that your mind is clear from any distraction, focus on how the air feels around you. Imagine that you can feel each individual atom against your skin. Note how chaotically this energy seems to fly through the air.

Take a deep breath and concentrate on visually pushing and pulling this energy at various degrees, until you see that have completely surrounded yourself in a sphere. Once this sphere is complete, focus on pulling more energy into it. Make sure that there are no holes.

In your mind, look around you -- check behind you to make sure that the sphere is complete. Once you are confident that you are completely encased in the sphere, focus on pulling more energy into it. Pull energy from outside the sphere and layer the energy as closely as you can to the sphere that you have already formed, creating a thick 'wall' of energy around you.

Continue this process until the sphere seems so thick that it becomes opaque and you can no longer see through it. When you have succeeded in this, imagine your sphere as a two-way mirror.
Make the outside of the sphere transparent, and the inside a brilliant metallic silver. This will allow energy to flow inward, but once inside the sphere, it will not be able to escape. Once you have visualized this, test it. Send a bit of energy out of your body and watch as it reflects directly back towards you and is absorbed again. Now focus outside the sphere for a moment. Pull energy inward from outside the confines of the sphere, making sure to maintain its integrity.

Once the energy comes into the sphere, it should not be able to exit. Now slowly open your eyes, maintaining the feeling of the sphere around you as you gradually let go of the visual image. You should feel more energized, and it should be much more difficult for energy to escape from your being. While this is only a visual exercise, it triggers your subconscious to manipulate the energy around you into a rather powerful shield that allows energy in, and allows you to retain the energy that is inside.

Practice this exercise whenever you have free time. -- Work on making the shield thicker and stronger. Eventually, this will train your subconscious to form the shield at your will, without having to concentrate so hard, or even having to visualize the shield around you.

ChadSang
08-04-2006, 06:51 PM
Good article you found on the net Countess Amenti, with a few exceptions. As I once said on a thread similar to this one, YES, hunters do exist, and YES you can learn to shield yourself so as to hide yourself from them. Keep in mind they in no way have the powers that a seasoned vampire has. Shielding is an acquired ability and it takes some practice and some more practice to become efficient in shielding.

Preist
08-05-2006, 09:41 AM
http://sanguin.net/forum/showthread.php?t=422

this is a link to the occult section on sheilding techniques that was posted a while ago there are many forms here to look over and practise including things like counter sheilding

as for a hunter they are not anything special so why would there be a problem draining one

preist

Nochtal
08-31-2006, 11:53 PM
IF your ever in a bind, tight spot, just remember! A quick powerful, fully intended "NO" is one of the most powerful forms of psychic self defense you can use on the moment. Will VS. Will! And I'm sure my fellow Vamp's will is stronger than any fool hunter.

Loves!
Noch

Preist
09-04-2006, 04:39 PM
with that one sometimes it best to follow with a sharp point of the finger and a short lunge forward and project the NO through the finger it works as well and send something they cant always identify towards them to back away

Preist

Liquidess_Shade
09-04-2006, 05:10 PM
It was my understand the besides the physical mannerisms that typical 'vampires' exhibt on the outside (clothing, teeth extensions, etc. etc.) That the most commonly refered to method of identifying a vampire was 'The Beacon'.

This would be what I would be focusing on shielding/cloaking/hiding, would be this 'pulse' if you will that identifies people as vampires...

Anyways, I figure the best way to avoid anyone trying to fuck with ya, is to make sure they don't know who you are.

ChadSang
09-04-2006, 07:22 PM
If you think real vampires dress a certain way and that real vampires have teeth extensions, then chances are what you have here are RPers and LSers

Nochtal
09-04-2006, 10:26 PM
Um, my teeth were actually sanded down. The 'hunter' I met was an interesting one. He wasn't sure what to think of me. And he was a powerful witch! I sensed him a day before he arrived. He arrived and told me he had followed my signiture over to where I was from a few towns away, he then proceded to get to know me. And determined I was not an abuse of power, but the other vamp he found there he determined was reckless and an abuse of power, and I learned quiet the interesting sealing magic from him. I watched him bind faster and more effective the powers and abilities of the other vampire! He and his clan hunted not only vampires but all students of the occult! And bound those who were reckless with it! Which was wierd cuz from talking to him they allowed people to practice and be "evil", if they weren't reckless. Has anyone else ever come across these breed of hunters?

And I have to agree with chadsang's last post as well.

Liquidess_Shade
09-06-2006, 12:41 AM
I'm sorry Nochtal. Maybe there are things that are in this world, that I have no knowledge of, because I am an ignorant mass follower. That is very possible.

But I cannot seem to grasp the concepts outlined in your above post. I am tempted to believe that that particular incident was one that should not have been taken seriously.

I can not also seem to grasp the concept that a story related as it was to us, would be one that someone would actually put any stock into.

While there are 'hunters' out there. Most are crazy lunatics to begin with in my book.

All in all, I'm sorry, but that entire scenario sounds to me to be one that is not one of all that sound of reality basis.

But then again, maybe I am one of those ignorant masses that just stumbled into here.

Amathiess
09-06-2006, 04:19 AM
Liquidess, you had the guts to say what I didn't post ... I agree. Personally I think Nochtal's post there on the hunter thing is um...RP and it sounds like something straight out of VtM or Whitewolf.

And I have to say this Nochtal, Nox has newly awakened vampires here...stories like the one you posted does nothing but harm them because they will read what you wrote and assume that all the stupid myths are true..this is a place of truth and of education. Stories like that (IMPO) belong in the entertainment section and should be posted as fiction.

darklin
09-06-2006, 06:31 AM
Iam in no way well acquainted with "Hunters" as they are referred to but i have come across people who feel threatened by me for what ever reason they might have. I personally believe that the greatest power is that of the mind and self will.
If you want something bad enough and will it with all your might then it will come about.
I know this because I have experienced it first hand.
People make the same age old mistake of being drawn into thing that they know nothing about and therefore can not control.
The mind has a funny way of manifesting things and you can use this to your advantage if you try.
Or you can question your own abilities and be left wide open to shall we say unwanted events.
Believe in what your willing and it will believe in you. If you trust yourself then there’s not a lot you can do wrong in the way of protecting yourself.
There are im sure many ways of protecting yourself against “Hunters” but if you don’t have faith in yourself then you will only bring about negativity.
I personally wont waste my time and effort on something that brings me stress or anguish because I believe that is the first step into letting them win. Call me ignorant but I have found this to be a blessing to me and as the old saying goes “Ignorance can be bliss”
Darklin

Nochtal
09-22-2006, 02:40 AM
Whatever you say. If you can't realize that those kinds of instances do happen. Then fine. If you need me to post that as fiction to protect your view on reality then I'll post it as fiction. Makes no difference to me. Your views do not change my reality. He goes by Raven, and practices the Faerie tradition of witchcraft. I find it insulting you call a once good friend of mine fictatious, but I can understand and see where you are coming from. I guess you all have just had a sheltered life. And as far as it's relavence, This is a thread about shielding from hunters. And that was just a little bit about a style of hunter. the knowladge of what they do and why they do it. I really don't want to learn any shielding from someone who does not see the importance of putting out there what the other is doing in the first place to make you have to shield yourself. Sorry if I seem a little offended in this response. But truthfully I am.

Bella
09-25-2006, 01:21 PM
The man I am referring to I believe is just a shell. I have had several take a look at his picture for me and they agree. As for me I have been really sick lately so shielding has become difficult. Presit your suggestion of pointing and No seems easily done and I plan on using that. Thanks everyone for your imput and your advice its very helpful.

ChadSang
10-02-2006, 05:05 AM
I'm sorry Nochtal. Maybe there are things that are in this world, that I have no knowledge of, because I am an ignorant mass follower. That is very possible.

But I cannot seem to grasp the concepts outlined in your above post. I am tempted to believe that that particular incident was one that should not have been taken seriously.

I can not also seem to grasp the concept that a story related as it was to us, would be one that someone would actually put any stock into.

While there are 'hunters' out there. Most are crazy lunatics to begin with in my book.

All in all, I'm sorry, but that entire scenario sounds to me to be one that is not one of all that sound of reality basis.

But then again, maybe I am one of those ignorant masses that just stumbled into here.



Well, that's just a sampling of what Nox offers> It separates the wheat from the chaff

Liquidess_Shade
10-03-2006, 08:00 PM
If this is what this community has come to, to allowing posts as such to be viewed as valid, and real, then I am truly saddened. This place used to have a stance AGAINST RolePlaying BS. But obviously that has all changed.

I hold a lot of people here close to me, as I have loved them for years. And I will NOT be told I am singling people out, as I am damn well determined to root out what I can in my view be called BS.

If ya wan't I'll make a list and post it.

But I realize I am one person, and I cannot do much to impact shit anywhere in this community as I have been gone, and no longer know people too well.

But if this is a representation of what people are believing, then I am truly appalled.