got a trivia question.....

[gypsy mouse]

who was that real life "countess"... or maybe she was a queen...from way back in the day, who would kill her vergin house maids and bath in their blood...something bathery i think...anyhoot....for some reason she walked through my brain and i was wondering if any of you belive she might have been a vamp? from what i remmembering of her story id think yes....just curious....and want to look her up.

[DarkenedLove]

im not sure

[gypsy mouse]

elizabeth bathery.... maybe... *goes off to fly through the net*

[Camazotz]

Yup, thats the name. Not sure that she was a vamp though, but haven't read a huge amount about her. She had a belief that bathing in the blood would keep her young... not sure if she ever ingested though.

[menace]

she bathed in the blood of vergins. and thaught that the blood was good for her skin. she didnt dry off with cloth either. she was licked clean by her servents the cloth was too abrasive on her skin.
she made the mistake of killing a noble girl instead of a pesant and was put to a most gruesome death.

[RevDevon]

though for years was often labeled along with vamps ... in truth she was one of the first serial killer and as what was stated she thought their blood aided her skin keeping a youthful appearence

[gypsy mouse]

damn.....knew she was a freak... just couldnt remmember how freaky.

[DarkenedLove]

yuppers she definitley a fukcin freaky freak

http://www.istrianet.org/istria/legends/vampires/bathory.htm
http://hjem.get2net.dk/the_cellar/bathory.htm
bathory.org/shyla.html :eek2:

[The Doctor]

Yeah Bathory's the name... she was a focal point in one of my rpgs I ran last year, ah history.... gives us some great villians

[gypsy mouse]

darkenedlove thank-you so much for the links. they are perfect. blessing.

[DarkenedLove]

no problem gypsy glad to help you anytime i can and if you'd like i can probally get you a few more links

[gypsy mouse]

i like links.........*smiles* never get a chance to surf the web myself.....allways here. *smirks* guess im "addicted"

[DarkenedLove]

ive only been here 2 days and im addicted i love this place

[DarkenedLove]

http://www.geocities.com/hdscof/elisa.html
http://www.fortunecity.com/roswell/streiber/273/bathory_mo.htm
www.angelfire.com/vamp/bathory1
www.geocities.com/wanwarlock/bathory.html
www.lizabets-vault.com/bathory.html
bathory.org
www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/bathory/countess_1.html
www.thehotspotonline.com/blahblah/articles/fdrac.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Bathory
www.thehotspotonline.com/blahblah/articles/fdrac2.htm
www.geocities.com/Area51/Cavern/8668/Countess.html
www.abacom.com/~jkrause/bathory.html
hjem.get2net.dk/the_cellar/bathory.htm
www.geocities.com/Wellesley/Veranda/7128
bathory.org/shyla.html
bathory.org/erzstale.html

[Savion]

In the 1476 Vlad was aided by Stephen Bathory of Transylvania and Stephan of Moldavia in reconquering Wallachia. Stephen was the great uncle of Ezrabet.

[DarkenedLove]

i din't know that

[RedRaven219]

Yeah, she was most likely just a serial killer afraid of aging, though I've never heard of the being licked clean part before I must say.

[gypsy mouse]

odd linking there savion. do you think there is a possiblity of vampirism there....like seek out the like... is it possible that elizabeth just had mislead direction....and how bout vald?? whats the vote on his being one of our most famous vampires... ya think??

[Master_Thaddeus]

She kept the bodies in the basement of the castle. Can you imagine the wicked reak that oozed from that place?

[Master_Thaddeus]

Vlad wasnt even known until Stroker did the book and again was refound in like the 60's or 70's when there was the revaloution in Romania. The leader (I cant remember his name) wanted a hero for the country. So they started to dig into the past more deeply.
He was NOT a vampire, just a twisted man who got off on impaling people. When he was imprisoned by the Turks he was known to imaple rats in his cel.
But, he did a lot for the country. Just made it so nobody wanted to invade. I couldnt imagine the sight or smell of thousands of people on the pole in fields as far as you can see.
That is what enraged the turks to try and get him out of power.



odd linking there savion. do you think there is a possiblity of vampirism there....like seek out the like... is it possible that elizabeth just had mislead direction....and how bout vald?? whats the vote on his being one of our most famous vampires... ya think??

[Savion]

True enough Master Thaddeus but Vlad was blood related to the Bathorys and gypsy does ask an interesting question. Stoker using Vlad as a basis for Dracula has no bearing on their bloodline. Though Tepes did not subscribe to the same beliefs of eternal youth (that we know of) he did have something of a bloodlust and was known to dip his bread in blood. Was this merely just because he could? Because he believed perhaps that the blood of the enemy would give him their strength as so many others believed at this time? Or did he have a bloodlust he did not make public? Perhaps a belief that it would extend his life or keep him young as Erzabet did? The possibilities are infinite as there is no possible way we could know what truly went on in his mind.

Therefore I would not rule out the possiblity of vampirism. It is generally accepted as fact that vampirism can, in fact, run in families but skip generations.

[gypsy mouse]

Vlad wasnt even known until Stroker did the book and again was refound in like the 60's or 70's when there was the revaloution in Romania. The leader (I cant remember his name) wanted a hero for the country. So they started to dig into the past more deeply.
He was NOT a vampire, just a twisted man who got off on impaling people. When he was imprisoned by the Turks he was known to imaple rats in his cel.
But, he did a lot for the country. Just made it so nobody wanted to invade. I couldnt imagine the sight or smell of thousands of people on the pole in fields as far as you can see.
That is what enraged the turks to try and get him out of power.

Wow!! master thad, you knew him well?? personally?? i thought only speculations would be thrown about... but wow you really nipped that one in the bud didnt you... thank you for your first hand insight.