Living vs. Dead Blood

[Eclecta]

Blood is widely accepted as being the life force from which many of us pull energy into ourselves while feeding, but there is more than one type of blood. Does it matter what type of blood we feed from, is a question that lingers in my mind occasionally. Testing this could be beneficial, but I think it could prove to both be risky and also time consuming, since donors are a rare commodity. So I bring this question to you, my peers, who may have knowledge beyond mine regarding this subject.

Living blood is that which is consumed to obtain energy during a sanguine feeding. This blood can be human or animal blood. Most seem to prefer human blood, though I do know of several who claim animal is just as good, even though ethical questions are raised, such as: Since, this animal cannot consent to my feeding from it, is what I am doing wrong. This is a good question and a debatable one; however, it is not the question I pose to you now.

Dead blood is that which has been stored, for a time, or it is that of a dead animal bought from a butcher or drained from a deer that is killed for meat, etc. Many people use dead blood as well as part of their sanguine feedings.

In my opinion, dead blood is only a substitute. It cannot replace the energy one would get when feeding from living blood of a living breathing source. Keep in mind; I stated this is my opinion.

In addition, it raises into question something else. When someone sang feeds, are they actually simultaneously feeding psi, while they are feeding sanguinely? If so, it brings another question to mind. Can all sangs learn to psi feed efficiently enough to be able to NOT sang feed anymore? If in fact it were a simultaneous feed, would it not make sense?

Perhaps, the blood is just a point of focus. In addition, although I am not disputing the validity of being able to derive energy from blood itself, I am however questioning whether or not some are actually doing so by pulling psi energy as well. It seems that would be the case in cases where it takes only a tiny amount of blood to satiate the hunger.

Please understand I am only curious as to know what you thoughts are on this subject and I am not intending to question whether what you are doing is wrong or right. I had these questions in my mind, and thought that I would share them with you in hopes that I may write an article regarding such in the near future.

[bloodraven]

I believe it is true that while I sang feed, I am psi feeding as well. It only makes sense...else how could you take so little blood and feel like you fed for hours?

[Nefaerieous]

The closest I could come to dead blood is my steak. I think, and like you, this is simply my opinion and how I feel, but to me no real satisfaction has been gotten from dead blood.

I think I agree with the two of you. I am I guess what is classified as an Eclectic (ugh I hate classifications and catagories and labels), but the blood in part for me outside of the prana, has that strong intimate (not necessarily sexual) feeling. A feeling so profound. That knowledge of having anothers life force mingling with my own. That in itself is definitely Psi satisfaction. Could sangs acclimate to feeding purely or primarily as a psi or empaths or elementals? That's hard for me to say definitively since I am not purely sang, but I would probably lean towards yes, they probably could. I think they would just need to find what works best for them.

I've realized I used various methods and found that the negative energies can satisfy the hunger, but negative just leaves a bad taste in my mouth (bad pun, sorry). For me, my preferered method as a sometime sang feeder, would be psi or elemental feeding. Elementally, the highest satisfactionI've gotten was from thunderstorms and/or wind. Just this afternoon, standing in the yard with the wind and fallen leaves rushing and swirling around me was incredible. Nostrils flaring as the wind brought the scent of the changing season....I felt at once so completely alive and peaceful, content, in the midst of autumn.

Wow... so... yeah ;)

[[nanu]]

my opinion is that dead blood doesn't really contain any energy.. life force is taken from blood.. but if the blood is 'dead' then the life force must gone, rite? ergo blood from i.e. steaks etc would satisfy the need for tasteing blood but not the need for energy.. see what I mean?

[darkangel]

Honestly i'm not sure. I only normally drink live blood. But Nanu you do have a point.

[[nanu]]

tnx ^^ and, well it makes sense to me.. the thing we need is the life-force, and if the person/animal is dead then the life force would dissipate from the blood as well as the body. at least that's what I think.. but we could of course drag this into the discussion of if the life force is connected to the evel of i.e. electrisity in the body. because after the body dies the brain sometimes transmits electrical impulses for several hours, and sometimes days after death.. buuut.. that's another discussion..

[darkangel]

Hmmm...I know what your trying to say but what if for some people they rather drink dead blood? For me of course I rather have live blood. I mean we are all different but maybe the life forces work in different ways with people, depending on their energy?

[[nanu]]

perhaps.. maybe enough energy is latent in the blood after death to be consumed after a while? I dunno..

[darkangel]

hmmm..ok. I guess it is possible as well. I was just trying to come up with all the possibilities. Since there is always a way of finding some sort of explanation...i think.

[Twilight_Pisces]

The benefits from sang and psi feeding are the same, the energy from the doner is taken in whether through the blood or just taking it into yourself by just psi-feeding.

Perhaps, psi-feeding is a... evolved method so that the vampire isn't as easily caught since you can feed from anyone without anyone else knowing it... I say evolved because I cannot draw a better, less egotisical sounding word from my naivette vocabulary...

Or maybe sang vamps can actually psi feed, but enjoy the taste of blood as an extra benefit, so they just stick to sang feeding.

I suppose that either way, energy IS in fact being drawn from the doner either through their blood or directly since everything is made of energy.
So both ways energy is drawn from the doner.

As for the dead blood, I would agree also that it doesn't contain energy anymore so it wouldn't work except to satiate the taste for blood.

I think that it may be possible that after the blood is taken almost right away after the animal has died, and is used within a quick amount of time, the energy in the blood still could be there, since the blood stays warm for a period of time after the body has died...

[Camazotz]

I believe all sangs can learn to psi feed. Blood (in my view) is a vessel merely for the energy that it contains, the same as emotions are a vessel for energy to someone who feeds off them.

[Preist]

I agree as well that the sangs can learn to psi feed as well it only takes itme and practice but as it goes i know blood is an adictive thing once its been consumed and its something thats hard to get off

so for a sang to start feeding solely on psi there is going ot be a missing element to it the satisfaction of knowing that they havent swolled there desire at heart but again with all addictions they can be gotten over

i worte the hybrid feeding article as i found many of the sangs i talked to felt they had to feed either every day or at least once a week gaining nothing when they fed but with a bit of coaching and gaining the psi element it seemed to work alot beter for them

the way i see it is body is a vessel forthe soul (what ever that may be) and the blood is a vessel for the energy it just is determined on how its seen and perceived and how much satisfaction can be gained from anyone feed

just my two bits

Preist

[RevDevon]

So many valid points have been made within this thread .... one thing to keep in mind is that all feeding methods may change from one to another ...as well as type of feeding under taken .. you can rationalize in paraballes .. will try to give some examples ...hopefully they will make some sense

lets take alcohol for example one may be totally satisified while drinking beer even though whisky and such is available but the more satisfying effect would of course be the one with the higher proof ... then there are those that drink an abundance of the higher proof stuff but can get effected quicker by the beer ..... then there is the near beer type where one can have the same desired effect ( jaegermeister effect )...

Which brings me to the "Jaegermeister effect." Jaegermeister is a brown liquor from Germany that's become popular in the last few years, especially among college students. Invariably, if you bring up the subject of Jaegermeister, you'll hear someone claim that the high from Jaegermeister is different from that of other drinks (often it's claimed that it contains morphine, opium, shoe polish ...) It's easy for a "rational" scientist to discount these claims and chalk it up to a placebo effect. This attitude frankly disturbs me, because it discounts the human factor in what after all is a discussion about consciousness. If someone claims to have a certain feeling, can anyone really say that the claim is invalid.


each individual can be different ...though it has been stated that sangs can learn to psy feed .... my theory is that all sang can yes of course feed via psy, elemental , or even sexual , though in fact the psy, elemental , or sexual may not be able to sang feed ..

I beleive all vamps initially start with psy and then build to become what their end self might be ...

hopefully i made sense ...we all know hopw burnt i am ..lol

[kyuuketsuki_kurai]

As far as the live blood/dead blood debate goes, I don't believe dead blood helps. Though, I can't think of a real easy way to test it. I believe that you can't the energy needed from it, because of the simple fact that it's dead.
On the topic of sang feeding/psi feeding, I guess that I'm alone in my belief that not all vampires can psi feed. I know a few vampires that, while they can handle energy, can't feed off of it and can only feed sang, and I don't see for any reason for this not to be true.

[Dreamsinblack]

I personally will not drink dead blood, it loses its appeal the moment it goes cold as well as the taste.

[bloodraven]

As far as the live blood/dead blood debate goes, I don't believe dead blood helps. Though, I can't think of a real easy way to test it. I believe that you can't the energy needed from it, because of the simple fact that it's dead.
On the topic of sang feeding/psi feeding, I guess that I'm alone in my belief that not all vampires can psi feed. I know a few vampires that, while they can handle energy, can't feed off of it and can only feed sang, and I don't see for any reason for this not to be true.

Yeah, you are not alone in that belief. I have tried to hard to psy feed, with much difficulty and little success. Sang does it better for me, I have figured out. I can pull energy out through psy feeding, true, but I cannot take it into myself. Its weird...

[[nanu]]

I personally will not drink dead blood, it loses its appeal the moment it goes cold as well as the taste.

I'm gonna agree with that.. even the thought of cold blood kinda gives me the hibbie jibbies.. hehe.. warm however *starts to get pekkish*

[Gabrielle]

']I'm gonna agree with that.. even the thought of cold blood kinda gives me the hibbie jibbies.. hehe.. warm however *starts to get pekkish*
i am totally the same, the thought of cold blood starting to clot and getting that film on the top of it, makes me want to vomit, just because when you drink it it is like mucus going down *gags*. I don't touch dead blood for that very reason. even warming up blood, it doesn't stay warm very long, and it really isn't the same

[Preist]

if the thought of cold blood gives you the perverbiable dry boke (vomiting with out anything there lol) then try it for a few seconds in the micro wave and add it to something like vodka wich is a anti coagulant sort of thing i prefere warm fresh blood my self at a time i needed to feed but wouldnt because i was still going through blood tests some freinds done this for me and it was a real buzz

Preist

[Savion]

I agree on the subject of dead blood. The energy which it contained is lost. It merely satisfies the craving but the actual need therefore the effects are very short term. I would think drinking dead blood would be more satisfying a fetish type of need rather than an instinctual need.

On the subject of sangs and psy feeding I believe it is matter of need. If a sang is not getting all they need by what blood they can obtain they may resort to psy feeding. But do not think they automatically psy feed while partaking of blood. I believe it is entirely possible for one type of vampire to feed in the manner of another, i.e. sangs psy feed and psys sang feed. But isn't it also possible that the nature of our vampirism depends on the amount we need? True enough what was previously stated that the blood can be addictive but for some of us the energy we get from the blood is sufficient and we feed as often as we need. But so does the psy yet not so often perhaps.Yet for a psy the need is greater and therefore they must resort to other methods in which greater amounts of energy can be taken without damaging one's self or the donor. As RevDevon stated methods of feeding and individuals vary.

[stephEJay98]

Well, I guess I am alone here in my views on live/dead blood, as I find that in a crunch dead blood can give energy, but maybe not in a way that is thought of. For example, when I am unable to get live blood, I will take dead animal blood from a butcher or whatever, focus on the residual energy left from that animals existance, mix a bit of my own energy with it, and it helps me. Now it may not be the best, but it does work for me. I have worked with energy for years now, I know what energy feels like, and I can sort of lock on to that animals energy signature and feed from it, I guess that this would be considered a hybrid feed, but that's what I do when I am without a donor. Also, I gave a bit of this blood to a friend of mine, in some blood wine, and I could see a difference in him, he seemed more energised, so I don't know whether it works for most, but in a crunch it works for me
Love in Darkness
-Steph

[kyuuketsuki_kurai]

I'm not so sure if being a sang means you need anything other than the energy in the blood. Most forms of feeding don't work for me other than sang, and even if I try to feed another way, it usually doesn't do much. However, it always seemed to me that my body just didn't know what to do with the enegy that wasn't in blood form.